Good News at Summit at Copper Square

For years residents at Summit at Copper Square have had to turn a deaf ear to train horns blowing night and day just to the south of the high rise. Even though the street intersecting the tracks is very lightly used, Federal regulations required that the train conductors blow their horns as they approached the area. Some of the conductors were cool about it and only gave the horn a short tap during the wee hours of the night while other conductors really blasted it.

David Wallach, the developer of Summit at Copper Square, has been pursuing a exception to the horn regulations so that the intersection would be treated as a “quiet zone” by the conductors. It appears that his tenacity is finally paying off. Below is a copy of an email that Wallach shared with me written by the man who has been helping him wth this issue:

“The 21 day notification letter was mailed on September 15th. From what Chris Becker has told us in the past it is often 2-3 weeks after the 21 days have lapsed that the horns actually go silent so I would not promise residents that it will be quiet on October 6th. There are also 2 minor sign issues which hopefully does not delay things with UP. We removed two signs from the drawings because of property owner concerns. UP has been very challenging to work with and I am crossing my fingers that they do not balk at the change. Jen can you send this out to the tenants please.

Dan Klocke
Director of Planning and Economic Development
Downtown Phoenix Partnership
101 North 1st Avenue, 14th Floor
Phoenix, AZ 85003″

Call or email us at We Know Urban Realty if you have any questions concerning this matter or if you are considering renting or buying a high rise condo at Summit at Copper Square :-)

What I Was Being Secretive About…

A week ago or so I wrote a blog post telling prospective high rise condo buyers to hold off until further notice because I had big news forthcoming.  Well the news was that M & I Bank, the construction lender for Century Plaza, is selling the note.  Basically, M&I took the $70 some-odd million dollar loan and wrote it down to $40 some-odd million because Equus, the developer, couldn’t perform (or so I hear).  Then it turns out that Equus couldn’t perform even on the reduced loan amount so M&I decided to sell the now $40 million note to the highest bidder.  We suspect that the highest bidder will be in the $20 million-ish range.

So what right?

Well in our opinions this could potentially affect the value of high rise condos across the Valley.  Here’s why.  The investor who buys the discounted note will have a number of options available to him/her (OK let’s go with the feminine from here on out for the sake of convenience).  She could sit on all the condos and wait for the market to rise but that is unlikely.  She could sell the note for a profit, but that is also unlikely.  She could rent all the units out, which would probably put downward pressure on rents of other high rise condos etc…  She could sell the units at half of what they used to sell for which would put downward pressure on prices of other high rise condos.  Or she could come up with some other brilliant solution but in all cases because she bought at such a discount it is very likely that she will undercut the competition PERIOD.

Now, also know that the lender at Summit at Copper Square just sold “in bulk” and at a steep discount the remaining 54 high rise condos it had.  The asking price had been about $20M but they only got $7M.  So here we go again, 54 units that can be sold or rented at steep discounts.

Now what happens to 44 Monroe?  IF it doesn’t go under in some way, it will have to compete with 130 units at Century Plaza offered at steep discounts and 54 units at Summit at Copper Square offered at steep discounts.  Well, 44 Monroe is already in big trouble having closed only 15 condos (rumored but not substantiated by us) out of the 202 units in that building.  So, IF sales have been slow there is there any reason to believe that the events at Century Plaza and Summit at Copper Square won’t make matters even worse?

Obviously we have to see what the new owners of the note at Century Plaza do and what the new owner of the condos at Summit at Copper Square will do.  So everything I have said so far is just congecture.  But, if I was smart enough to have the  $20M to buy the note at Century Plaza I think I would discount the heck out of the condos and rent them or sell them ASAP.

Anyway, it was for these reasons that I encouraged potential buyer to pause.  Having said that, I still think that if you are looking to buy foreclosure properties you MIGHT be OK.  I say “might” because the answer really depends on your specific needs and objectives and where you are looking.  In some cases we do NOT recommend buying and in other cases we do recommend buying.  Call us if you want help.

And yes, I expect to get some negative comments on everything I just wrote, from the blog haters of the world.  But gang, if you are going to blast me, at least support it with numbers and not just emotional venom.  I really appreciate others’ opinions if they are thought out and reasonable.

Stop the Train…noise

Owners and renters at Summit at Copper Square have been dealing with the sometimes nostalgic but at times jolting sound of train horns at 3:00am right outside their bedroom windows now for about six months. Owners have complained that the builder of Summit at Copper Square did not adequately disclose the condition and have threatened (or filed) law suits.

Rumor was that a solution might be coming down the pike and we’re glad to read about it in today’s paper (see http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0616quietzone0616.html). I for one could sleep through the sound but it definitely deterred at least two prospective renters I had for the building.

I also hear that while some train conductors recognize and comply with the law by “gently” pulling the horn others seem to enjoy laying on it and making a big ol’ racket. In either case this is some to know about if you are considering renting or buying at Summit at Copper Square high rise and/or Stadium Lofts both in downtown Phoenix.

Thing Are Moving Up Downtown

I think most people are trying to avoid driving around the downtown Phoenix area lately. The construction for the light rail is really making it difficult to navigate Central Ave and some of the surrounding neighborhoods. I had an appointment last week to show property to some out of state clients who were looking in Tapestry on Central and the Artisan on Central Lofts. Once we were done I bravely ventured down Central Ave to see how things were coming at 44 Monroe and Summit at Copper Square, two of the larger high rise condo projects in Phoenix. I was amazed at the amount of construction going on everywhere, and not just for the light rail line. Buildings and structures are going up everywhere you look. The residential standouts were 44 Monroe and Summit at Copper Square, plus the new Sheraton Hotel. ASU is moving at light speed with new education and housing facilities going up all around their downtown campus. It’s amazing to see how much activity is going on considering the
slow housing market.
I have always believed that downtown Phoenix was not quite the destination that it really wanted to be, either for visitors or for residents. It’s a great place to catch a game or a play, weekdays are active and bustling, but it has always had a tendency to empty out after 5:00 pm. Weekends had that kind of strange, empty, ghost town feel to them. I thought light rail system would help, but it was still lacking the residential population base to make it a hip destination. Now I’m convinced that the ASU presence, along with a functioning light rail system, will turn downtown Phoenix into a place that people want to visit, and want to live in. One thing is for sure, these are not the days of the starving students anymore,…students spend money. Throw a large student population into the Copper Square mix and watch the shops, trendy clubs, boutiques and restaurants come in right behind them.

Last week newly reelected Phoenix mayor Phil Gordon gave his victory speech in the Summit at Copper Square building, the first formal event to be held there. As I stood outside the 22 story tower and looked across to the plaza in front of Chase Field, I realized that downtown Phoenix was finally turning the corner it has been trying to turn since Jerry Colangelo chose to build a new stadium for the Suns off Jackson St.

The future for downtown Phoenix and Copper Square is bright, I can’t wait to watch it unfold.
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